It was 20 years ago today…
October 22nd, 2022
EXCELSIOR ENERGY’S MESABA PROJECT
PARTIAL DOCUMENT REPOSITORY
Well, a bit more than 20 years ago… January 15, 2002, just after the start of the legislative session, I was at an energy committee meeting, Senate? House? I think Senate was first, then heard again at House, and the following year they got their legislation through as a part of the 2003 Prairie Island bill.
- The Excelsior Energy link I’m using is compliments of waybackmachine. Note that now, if you plug in “excelsiorenergy.com” it becomes “excelsiorcapital.com (Excelsior Energy Capital).” essentially at a marina at 21960 Minnetonka Blvd.! Related?
Anyway, there was a presentation back in 2002 about the greatest thing since sliced bread (NOT!), a coal gasification project proposed for “somewhere” on the Range. Here’s what they presented:
Note the parts about “brownfield” and “existing infrastructure.” LIES, it’s that simple. Here’s what their site looked like, this was at the DOE and locals site visit in 2005:
Starting in 2005, I was representing “mncoalgasplant,” landowners and residents near the proposed project, joined in tandem by Citizens Against the Mesaba Project (CAMP) (site circa 2013 with live links, thanks waybackmachine!). We had such active folks, every hearing was PACKED, and eventually the project faded, never formally declared dead, but piece by piece, it went away.
HOWEVER, Excelsior Energy did manage to get an save passed by the legislature for a natural gas plant:
Week before last, I picked up files from a cohort who shall remain unnamed, and am scanning in boxes of files, to post here, and recycle hard copies for biomass (UGH, but that’s what Red Wing does. Thanks, Xcel Energy!). I’ll be posting them, some interesting stuff if you’re into energy and political and capital intrigue, some purely inside baseball that no one will care about.
MONEY TRACKING – Spreadsheets and invoices to IRRB for reimbursement
Various Contractor Invoices (some redacted)
What a pain in the patoot that was — TWO ENTIRE WASTEBASKET OF SCANNING!
Another CCS scam bites the dust
October 10th, 2022
Here’s a real DOH! which could have been avoided, but DOE through several administrations keep throwing good money after bad for carbon capture and storage pipedream:
The ill-fated Petra Nova CCS project: NRG Energy throws in the towel
NRG’s Petra Nova project $$$:
Short version? FAIL! From the article:
Following this FAIL, the understatement of the century, from the article:
Yet CCS is a big part of the latest federal energy efforts. It’s also a huge boondoggle for not just outfits like NRC, but for certain “non-profits” like Great Plains Institute:
And check out these salaries:
Great Plains Institute helped push coal gasification, for extreme amounts of money…
Great Plains Institute – is Joyce getting their $$ worth?
January 18th, 2007
… but that pales in comparison for the dollars for this recent round of “carbon capture” promotional funding. Unreal…
Once more with feeling — carbon capture is not real, is not workable, is a waste of $$ and effort.
Talon Mine & another CO2 capture scam?
September 1st, 2022
Rio Tinto Press Release from February 2022 about its Talon mine (Talon Metals, Talon Nickel, whatever…):
DOE backs Rio Tinto led team to explore carbon storage at Tamarack
Did we learn nothing from the Mesaba Project and their bogus “carbon capture and storage” scam? Apparently not, here we go again…
Tesla will buy nickel from planned Talon Metals Minnesota mine
Here’s Talon’s June 2022 powerpoint:
This project is planned for the area around Tamarack, north mostly.
The Talon application to “continue” the “exploration plan” was approved earlier this year by the DNR, on April 12, 2022 (scroll down at link), less than a month after it was applied for!
The initial “exploration plan” was approved by the DNR on April 5, 2021:
Oh, but wait, that’s NOT the initial plan, there were two earlier applications to the DNR, also approved, oh, make that FOUR:
CO2 Capture Pipeline? Just NO!
November 2nd, 2021
Summit Carbon Solutions, LLC is looking to build billions in pipelines, ostensibly to ship CO2 out of state.
Here’s another map, from the “Presentation-Materials” below — look how far into Minnesota it goes from the south, and even from the west:
Yeah, right. Great idea… NOT! Whether it gets built or not, for sure they’re working to get federal grants and loans! Here’s their plan, the handout and presentation from recent Iowa meetings, and after the Iowa meetings, it’s open season, they can file a project proposal with the Iowa Utilities Board at any time:
I fired off this missive to the Iowa Utilities Board:
To look at the IUB’s Summit Carbon Solutions pipeline docket, go HERE, and in that press release, click on the link for Docket No. HLP-2021-0001 and click on the left side the “FILINGS” and there you’ll find a LOT to read! These two studies are among the filings — issues and risks are not new, but here’s a few new studies, newer than what we had back in the Mesaba Project days:
I cannot believe that anyone would regard this as a feasible concept, but what with the millions being shoveled at toadies like Great Plains Institute to promote CO2 capture and storage (nevermind it just isn’t a thing), it’s no surprise:
I guess they can’t read:
We learned a LOT about CO2 capture and storage during the years of Excelsior Energy’s Mesaba Project. CO2 capture is absurdly expensive to capture even a little CO2, and most cannot be captured. And then what? For the Mesaba project, the “plan” they offered captured a tiny amount and then took it to the plant gate — and then what? Who knows, nothing further was disclosed other than a map showing allegedly suitable sites, but no, there was nothing real. This map:
Their plan? Read it and guffaw, snort, hoot and holler:
And Excelsior Energy’s press release:
And check this, about CO2 leaks:
Some other info:
Now remember, when we’re talking about Carbon Capture and Sequestration, there are three distinct parts:
1) Capture (this has been focus of industry studies)
2) Transport
– $60k/inch/mile = $1,080,000/mi for 18″ pipe
– Repressurization stations along the way
3) Sequestration ($3-10/ton, per Sally M. Benson)
And this is all old news:
CO2 pipelines? It’s a red herring!
Do we really need to go through this again??
And some more old news:
Economic Modeling of Carbon Capture and Sequestration Technology
Hydro & Geological Monitoring of CO2 Sequestration Pilot
Electricity without CO2 – Assessing the Costs of CO2 Capture and Sequestration
Geologic Carbon Dioxide Sequestration – Site Evaluation to Implementaion
Carbon capture & storage again?!?! JUST NO!
October 28th, 2020
Here’s a study from 2018 that I found in connection with a recent article about the controversy over the Colstrip coal plant and whether it will be rehabbed, whether it will continue to provide Idaho with some power after withdrawal from Washington state.
Idaho regulators have Colstrip concerns
Here’s the study:
Carbon Capture was to be considered in the plan for Colstrip rehab, but here’s the conclusion:
45Q CO2 tax credits? Get out the waders. From our “good friends” at Great Plains Institute, its Primer: Section 45Q Tax Credit for Carbon Capture Projects.
To implement the reformed 45Q, the US Treasury requested public comments in IRS Notice 2019-32 on several key issues. The IRS issued guidance on beginning and continuous construction requirements along with a revenue procedure for business partnerships that include investors claiming the tax credit. The IRS released proposed regulations to address additional implementation issues, including requirements for demonstrating secure geological storage, credit recapture, credit transferability and contractural assurance, and requirements for lifecycle analysis of emissions reductions for projects that beneficially use CO2 or CO to convert manufacture fuels, chemicals, or other useful products like cement.
https://www.betterenergy.org/blog/primer-section-45q-tax-credit-for-carbon-capture-projects/
Yes, Great Plains Institute has a big money-suck program AGAIN, pushing “carbon capture and storage/sequestration.”
Money suck? Yes, look at this from 2017 IRS 990, most recent I could find, but for sure there is more since:
Current Legalectric post, and going back… been there, done that, must we?
More Carbon Capture PR BS
February 21st, 2020
CO2 pipelines? It’s a red herring!
March 22nd, 2017
Do really need to go through this again? Apparently, because as Bill Grant, formerly Deputy Director of Commerce on the Energy side, and before that Izaak Walton League forever, said circa 2005 and coal gasification and CCS, “we need to find a way forward for coal.” We’ve been there, done that, and carbon capture is a pipedream:
And even though we knew it then, the science and economics were in the record, regulators and applications paid little attention until plant after plant was blocked, denied, and withdrawn. Then again, they got a LOT of money to promote coal gasification and carbon capture, but those of us without funding, without resources, kept at it, and prevailed.
IEDC gets carried away
February 15th, 2007
And here are the presentations from that fiasco, the shameful promotion of CCS contrary to science and economics: