Goodhue Wind files application
October 26th, 2009
Here we go… Goodhue Wind, LLC has filed an application.
To see the docket, go to www.puc.state.mn.us and search for docket “08-1233.”
It came in the mail today, and I looked at the service list, and I don’t think these guys are very interested in public relations or being good neighbors.
I’m the only non-industry wonk on the service list, no one, not one of the many people who have expressed interest in this project, not one of the many people in the area who have filed comments on various dockets, not one of the many people who attended the wind meeting in Wanamingo a few months ago, NONE were included on the service list.
Let’s see, they first filed this sucker a year ago… and now they’re getting around to filing an amended application.
I’ll post links here soon…
Some of those are pretty big, and the “B-F” wouldn’t reduce, so it’s a link. Oh well…
LEC meets today — MOES presents “Resource Assessment”
October 23rd, 2009
Today’s the day that the Legislative Energy Commission meets to hear about MOES Resource Assessment Study. Focus is on the horse’s ASS of Assessment, it is deserving of one of these guys:
Here it is:
The LEC meeting starts in 10 minutes — hammer down!
FRIDAY, October 23, 2009
12:30 PM
Room: 200 State Office Building
And when you get there, hammer on them, there’s no excuse for a report like this. Look at their forecasts, they admit the system peak was 2006, folks, it’s been downhill from there, that’s more than a “blip” and when you add in the 1.5% conservation mandate, where are we? They’ve not addressed this.
If you look at where Xcel thought we’d be, in their 2004 forecasts for Blue Lake, we’re below where they said we’d be in 2004. Hmmmmmmmmm, take a look at Xcel’s forecast:
And Xcel’s peak demand reality:
And very graphically:
We’re down at least 2-2.5% in 2009 from SEC filings. At this rate, how long before we’re at the 2004 forecasted 9,100MW? MOES, how stupid do you think we are? If I were on the LEC, I’d be outraged! I’m not on the LEC so I’m just … just… lacking in words… If I produced something like this, I’d be fired.
Report on Monday Chisago meeting
October 22nd, 2009
Blake Wheatley promotes his vaporware project (from Chisago County Press, fair use)
Here’s the latest from the Chisago County Press:
Hundreds attend LS Power information meeting sponsored by county and Lent Township
If citizens feel the system still failed to consider issues, the decision of the PUC can be appealed to the state Court of Appeals.
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Minnesota Resource Assessment Survey
October 21st, 2009
From the Minnesota Office of Energy Security:
… the Minnesota Resource Assessment … sigh…
Get out your waders… from the solicited Comments at the end, from “stakeholders,” (did I miss some notice and comment period here??? Did any of YOU get notice???) the problems raised are nearly universally complaints.
OK, now open it up and look … and in it on page 6 is that MOE’S napkin calulation that they finagled into the CapX 2020 record after we got extracted some damning testimony about decreased demand, this is such utter bullshit, look at this and see for yourself:
And you may ask, what that in the X axis? Good question, there’s no identification. And the Y? Same.
WTF?
This is the report we’ve been waiting so long for?
This is the report that, at the Legislative Energy Commission I testified at, Chair Solon-Prettner was asking for, demanding, because it was way late?
This report was presented in all seriousness to the Legislative Energy Commission? I would hope that I could hear them laughing all the way down here in Red Wing…
Here’s “Capital Costs” from page 19:
And further back, the Preliminary Capital Costs:
Oh, please… Commerce was part of the Mesaba Project, and Elion Amit did the economic analysis. From that 2005 data, this is way way off, THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS WHATSOEVER.
IGCC in 2005 dollars was $3,595/kW and now it’s more.
IGCC w/ sequestration is, first, NOT POSSIBLE, and second, price would double just for capture, and the storage can’t be done.
Coal is more expensive that that and you know it.
Wake me up when you can deliver some meaningful numbers.
Look at “Generation by fuel source under selected scenarios” starting on p. 87. In only one scenario does coal go down at all, and that’s for a “National RES” scenario, and it only goes down a teeny teeny bit. Give me a break…
DOH!
If you have questions or comments on this Minnesota Resource Assessment contact:
Marya White, Reliability Administrator
Minnesota Department of Commerce
85 7th Place East. Suite 500
St. Paul, MN 55101
651-297-1773
marya.white [at] state.mn.us
If you want to tell Steve Rakow what you think of his “Forecast Comparison” and analysis:
Steve Rakow
Minnesota Department of Commerce
85 7th Place East. Suite 500
St. Paul, MN 55101
steve.rakow [at] state.mn.us
Once more with feeling…
DOH!
500+ give LS Power a piece of their mind
October 20th, 2009
XCEL DOESN’T NEED OR WANT MORE ELECTRICITY, XCEL DOESN’T WANT A POWER PURCHASE AGREEMENT WITH LS POWER, SUNRISE ENERGY, OR WHOEVER…
That was the most important thing to come out of last night’s meeting. Mikey Bull was clear, stating in a most Norwegian way that “despite what Carol thinks, our load is growing,” and that they “won’t have a need… until 2016 or 2017.” I hope that people LISTENED CAREFULLY and were thinking critically.
Shellene Johnson, CRVC, walked Bob Cupit through the siting review and permitting options:
Bob was thrilled, I’m sure, he thought I’d put her up to it, but hey, I’m innocent — this is info that needs to be public, so that people understand all the options. Shellene had questions, particularly where this was an issue that had come up way back when we worked on the County Essential Services ordinance, and wanted to beef up the county’s ordinance to give them some options if a project went through local review. Local review is NOT a new issue for Chisago County, and if you recall, the SE Metro line went through the local review process.
Alan Muller was his usual delightful self, leading Blake Wheatley through a list of questions that demonstrated the “vaporware” nature of this project — he couldn’t or wouldn’t give us any information at all about the project. He knew NOTINK!
What would be the output of this plant? Answer:
780 MW summer rating. Over 800 winter rating. [Gas turbines
make more power when the air is colder and more dense.]How many generating units would there
be?
Answer: Don’t
know/haven’t decided.Who would be the manufacturer of the combustion
turbines? Answer:
Don’t know/haven’t decided.Who would be the manufacturer of the steam
turbines? Answer: Don’t
know/haven’t decided.How many smokestacks would the plant have?
Answer: Don’t know/haven’t
decided.How gallons or barrels of oil would be stored on the
site:
Answer: Don’t know/haven’t decided.How much oil would be burned in a
year?
Answer: Don’t
know/haven’t decided.In your air permit application, how many pounds per year of regulated air
pollutants would you be asking permission to put up your
smokestacks? Answer: Don’t know/haven’t
decided.And so on …..
…he knew nothing at all about this, and that’s because there’s nothing to know. There’s no project plan, no Power Purchase Agreement, no state permit applications, nada… This isn’t a project, it’s a farce… Tom Micheletti could take lessons from Blake Wheatley. Here’s the site plan, from the Oct 15 2009 Revised Draft Development Agreement:
WOW, that says a lot…
Take the time to read these:
Oct 15 2009 Revised Draft Development Agreement
I promised to post a few things so people can learn about prior proposals to get an idea what this one means, so let’s do that. Bear with me, this is interesting stuff!
This MISO Interconnection study says that for 660MW of generation at the Chisago sub, lots of transmission would need to be added. Here’s what one of the two similar options looks like (it’s better in print than here, looks hard to read):
Next is an answer to “what exactly are they proposing” with a couple of prior applications for gas plants as examples of what to expect, what to look for:
Faribault Energy Park – Application
These two applications are important to see what gas plants are all about. For example, the Faribault Energy Park is a 250MW plant, and here are some fun facts from the application:
A 250MW plant is 68 dB(A) 400 feet from the plant… what will a plant three+ times that be?
Here’s what that plant looks like – REMEMBER 750MW IS THREE TIMES THE SIZE OF A 250MW PLANT AND 855MW IS NEARLY FOUR TIMES AS LARGE:
Here’s a closer side view:
Here’s an emissions chart, and remember, the LS Power proposal is 3+ times this, so expect over three times the emissions:
And here’s a fun fact, from the 2004 Blue Lake application, showing their projected “need” back in 2004 that’s WAY overestimated:
From Xcel’s 2008 10-k, p. 10:
Capacity and Demand
Uninterrupted system peak demand for the NSP System’s electric utility for each of the last three years and the forecast for 2009, assuming normal weather, is listed below.System Peak Demand (in MW)
2006 2007 2008 2009 Forecast
9,859 9,427 8,697 9,662The peak demand for the NSP System typically occurs in the summer. The 2008 system peak demand for the NSP System occurred on July 29, 2008.
And now we know that instead of inexplicably going up in 2009, it’s going down. DOWN, further down. But note that in their 2008 10-k, Xcel admits that system peak was 8.697, lower than 2004. That pushes out any need until when? And the longer this drop continues, the further out and less probably any increased need is! And remember, Blue Lake was added to address the 11,000MW need claimed in the application. To get beyond that, how long will it take? With conservation, probably forever, we’ll never need more!
So, folks, as you can see, this isn’t rocket science, and they have no plan, no Power Purchase Agreement, it isn’t needed, it isn’t wanted. LS Power, go away.



















