Sandbagging Silica Sand Rulemaking – Meeting July 24
July 22nd, 2014
It’s that time again — Thursday, July 24, is the next meeting of the Silica Sand Rulemaking Advisory Committee. It will be held at the People’s Energy Cooperative, in Oronoco, and run from 10:00 a.m. to 3:30 p.m.
Will there be draft rules trotted out for review on Thursday? $50 says they won’t have draft rules for review this time either… and folks, I do NOT want to win that bet. But this is a repeated problem. What I’m seeing is that if they are going to put the draft rules before the EQB in September, this is the last chance to receive a draft, take it to constituents, and bring back comments and concerns to the Committee in August! Now … the last chance…
Those who are “representing” us:
How about standing up and demanding full process and disclosure of draft rules? And how about reporting back on what’s going on, and more importantly, what’s NOT going on? You also need to forward the draft rules and other information to all of your “constituents” who you’re representing and solicit for comments to take back to the Rulemaking group. The communities at stake here should be aware of the utter lack of progress and lack of draft rule disclosure and should be storming the agencies and Governor’s office! Informing us is a big part of the job of being a “representative” on this committee. (Listening to the June meeting, Charlie is delivering a message about the importance of keeping alternates informed and of alternates to keep themselves up to speed… that goes for letting the rest of us know what’s happening too!)
I’m also curious about Minnesota Center for Environmental Advocacy’s role, and why MCEA is the only NGO represented — what’s up with that?
In the recorded WebEx for June 24 there are some great comments from members on cumulative impacts and density of projects, threshold of acres of farmland lost. Also consideration of the AUAR process applicable to silica sand mining permits, and baseline info about silica sand mining footprint. And DOH, the need for the SONAR to be able to address rules, and a need for holistic review and a mine inventory. Check it out.
Here’s the July 24 agenda — do you see any mention here of the September plan to present rules to EQB?
AGENDA
The statutory purpose of a Rulemaking Advisory Committee is to comment on DRAFT rules PRIOR to release by the agency for comment. This is where input is most important, because once the draft rules are released for comment, the agency may not approve rules that are substantially different! Comments after release won’t have a heck of a lot of influence, that’s how the rulemaking process works (or doesn’t work). So meanwhile, what’s happening here is that not enough is happening, that the agencies here are sandbagging the rulemaking process. Listen to the WebEx recordings, it’s worthwhile to get the flavor of these meetings.
Yes, it’s true, I’ve not gone to these meetings. Why? Because odds are it would be like the last time I went to a meeting where Charlie Peterson was “facilitating” and lots of questions were dodged, answers were not provided and those that were only covered 1/2 the issue, narrowing the discussion rather than broadening it as should be done for scoping, and crucial information was being withheld in a transmission scoping Advisory Task Force group. The historical scoop: I’m asking you to leave…
Here’s what the Rulemaking Advisory Committee has done thus far, from the Silica Sand page:
Past meetings
June 2014
- See the recorded WebEx
- Presentation: AQ rule concepts: Walkthrough and dashboard
- Handout: [DRAFT] Shared agency definitions for rulemaking
May 2014
- Meeting notes (May 2014)
- See the recorded WebEx
- Presentation: Silica sand rulemaking – Reclamation (Part 1)
- Presentation: Silica sand rulemaking – Reclamation (Part 2)
- Handout: Overview of DNR rulemaking
April 2014
March 2014
- Meeting notes (March 2014)
- See the recorded WebEx
- Presentation: Air permitting 101 – Air regulations and permits
January 2014
The panel first met on January 29.
Again, here is the statute:
Once more with feeling:
To the rulemaking staff at MPCA, EQB and DNR: YOU’RE AVOIDING PUBLIC INPUT ON DRAFT RULES PRIOR TO BRINGING TO PROPOSAL TO THE BOARD. STOP SANDBAGGING THE PROCESS AND PRODUCE THE DRAFT RULES FOR REVIEW.
DISCLOSE DRAFT RULES FOR REVIEW BY ADVISORY COMMITTEE PRIOR TO TAKING THEM TO EQB BOARD & AGENCIES!
To the representatives on the Rulemaking Advisory Panel, please represent your constituents and let us all know what’s going on, get the draft Rules, and get them to your constituents — US — for review and comment!
Delaware City Daze… quashing free speech
July 20th, 2014

Guess they should try “open carry” of fishing poles! See what they do then?!?!
“Rueful city officials have slapped a ban on some political speech…” what IS and IS NOT banned? Who is deciding? What are the guidelines?
Seems Delaware City had decided to give the 1st Amendment a good swift kick and quash free speech at Delaware City Days. WHAT? What could possibly be such a problem with people saying, “PFB REFINERY: STOP KILLING OUR FISH!”
Controversy overshadows Delaware City Day
Jeff Montgomery, The News Journal
Delaware City’s fire company manages the parking, with a $5 per car fee supporting cadet programs.
Contact Jeff Montgomery at (302) 463-3344 or jmontgomery@delawareonline.com
Bark & Ride transport completed!!!
July 20th, 2014
Bark & Ride Transport this weekend
July 19th, 2014
Another noisy day… it’s Xcel Energy again!
July 18th, 2014
My friends at Xcel are miscalculating my schedule, sending the guys with the boom trucks over on a Friday without a deadline!!! HA HA HA HA HA HA and not only that,
Yeah, give ’em the raspberries…
Today they’re taking out the poles across the street so they can start on the mother of all retaining walls. We do now have a distribution line in the front yard. Where’s that gauss meter?
Did you know that they saw down utility poles? Odd, I figured they’d take them out and resuse them. Here they’ve sawed the support pole in half, then took it down and are sawing it up into little chunks. So small that I’ll bet they haul them over to their garbage burner here in Red Wing, or down to La Crosse where I know they burn railroad ties. Railroad ties, penta poles, what’s the difference!
We’ve told the city that we LOVE the quiet at night, what a difference, and they were tickled that we thought they’d done something right (guess Alan and I are known around city offices). There are deer back in da ‘hood again, one strolling down the middle of the dirt street, and somebody’s been eating the day lily buds. We need to move some of the construction hazard lights closer.
Life goes on with construction… but work? No way!










